'Better Organized Art Models'

topic posted Tue, July 17, 2007 - 4:09 PM by  deryk
'Greetings Tribers, Have recently corresponded with somebody from another tribe on this subject. So had to do another 'search' and get increasingly specific; so possibly the subject may fit in better with this tribe. Specifically, am presently wrangling some sort of a deal to standardize and raise pay for the art models at universities and colleges. The reason for writing to you there on the West Coast being that the trolls abound on the East Coast. Bay Area Guild and Palo Alto Guild BOTH say that they want to get $30 per hr., minimum. Have heard even higher from verbatim sources, but don't go and compare this with the stinge bags of NYC or other cultural back-waters on the East Coast. They are entrenched with a scarcastic, anti-culture attitude and rarely pay over $16 an hr..

To do a FFW, have been doing the scheduling for art dpartments of numbers of 2ndarys for over 15-16 yrs.. Included Kingsboro College and Hunter College of the NYC system. Was also the treasurer of the only viable guild of NYC, the Society of Models for Art and Education.
Am still considering the whole condition to be a politicke of class and clone regulation on part of the powers that be, so have brought cases to the NYC Dpt of Labor about this. Basically from having been a former West Coast sort of cultural activist.

The down-drift of this being that some months ago, the grad assts at NYU were assisted at a labor effort. They were not going to work until they got a raise. Pay had been stale-mated at less than $20 an hr. for over 10-15 yrs.. They were organized and supported on the part of the local AFL-CIO that reps for the teachers and other staffers. They got $50 an hour, and of course, some RESPECT. So, as the negotiations were concluding, yours truly went to them with the plight of the art dept models. They were totally ABYSMALLY IGNORANT of the pay or conditions. Of course, you say to yourself, they weren't artists or other 'dept folk'.. But the difficulty has been and continues to be, that they have a genuine mis-giving about repping for the job 'cause the models are working either nude or mostly nude. They need to be really swept along with some strong opinions and that feeling of 'safety in numbers'. At present, they were acting embarrassed to even talk about the idea.

So, have been writng to models on the Internet, including the great British Guild, "R.A.M." and Iona Lynn among them, to get some support going. Possibly we could eventually write to the union with testimony and support their efforts. They do need to be 'encouraged', as obviously, they are not on the right level to even relate to the idea.

Your postings on this would be so appreciated, as am certain of the cause holding sway over the trolling and other detractors. Thank you again for corresponding and support. Deryk R. Demmer.'
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deryk
New York City
  • Re: 'Better Organized Art Models'

    Thu, July 19, 2007 - 5:01 PM
    I'm the Secretary for the Society of Artists' Models in Los Angeles, and for starters let me say that there are a couple of groups set up for models' communications within los angeles, and we are in the ongoing process of establishing ourselves as an official society and a non-profit.

    But since the la groups are primarily for bookings, organization set-up, and other info exchange pertaining to just the la area, there is also a separate need for inter-intranational links and info sharing between associations in any area of this country and internationally, and i periodically get mail or inquiries from models around the country .

    So i started a yahoogroup specifically to provide links to art model associations and such - it hasn't really taken off yet, but i set it up as open to anyone so that the links could be seen even without becoming a member of the group. Please everyone, do checkout the links that are posted there, and just send a post with any other links that you come across!

    artmodelassociations@yahoogroups.com is the addy.

    any models and model coordinators interested in finding associations and contact points in your area, or networking between various geographical areas and information sharing among associations are welcome to also join the group, and (gently and respectfully i hope) utilize any connections posted there.

    Luyah Phoenix

    Secretary,
    Society of Artists' Models in Los Angeles
  • Re: 'Better Organized Art Models'-Milwaukee

    Mon, November 26, 2007 - 9:47 PM
    I'm new to tribe (or at least to start going on the site) but I'm a model here in MIlwaukee, WI and this is a topic being debated in the art dept at the campus here.
    So through this is a late post- but here's my two cents that even 16 dollars is high compared to Milwaukee where
    They pay 10.66 an hour on the campus, so 32 dollars for a 3 hour session, and then they take taxes out.
    So it's interesting to hear that other areas are fighting to get it higher.
    I'll have to bring that up with the art dept. here.
    • Re: 'Better Organized Art Models'-Milwaukee

      Thu, November 29, 2007 - 3:41 PM
      I model in Salt Lake City, and Park City most often, though I have strayed into Utah Valley (home of BYU) and the rates vary from $12 to $20/ hour. The average is $15. That's what the University of Utah pays; however, they take taxes out. Utah Valley State College, in Utah County, very near BYU pays $20/hour for nude models; however, the cost to drive there doesn't make it worth it.

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